Helloween Family Tree
This is a project aimed at making it easy to see who inspired the bands you love or even hate. For this I try not to use any influences that the band don’t claim themselves. There will be a focus on predecessors but successors will be added as they cite the band. These trees become more and more interactive as new bands are added, allowing you to click any band that has a tree and jump to it.
We want our lists to be better. If you know something that belongs on this list, let us know. When in doubt we will leave it out, so we need reliable sources.
Helloween are a very important band and are considered by many to be the fathers of power metal. Although U.S. power metal dates back further, the European style is the dominant and most recognized style and can be traced to Helloween.
The first album consisted of vocalist and guitarist Kai Hansen, guitarist Michael Weikath, bassist Markus Grosskopf, and drummer Ingo Schwichtenberg. Michael and Markus have been the only consistent members. Michael Kiske stepped in for vocals for the next four albums. Kai sung only on the first one but played guitar for the first three. Roland Grapow replaced Kai on guitar untill 2001 when Sascha Gerstner became the new guitarist. Andi Deris replaced Kiski on vocals in 1994. Uli Kusch stepped in as drummer in 1994 and remained until 2001. He is the only drummer who consistently wrote music in the band. Rabbit Don't Come Easy had three different drummers non of which wrote any music. Daniel Löble took on the drum role in 2005 and has remained with the band since. Primarily music has been written by guitar players and vocalists with Uli also writing a lot while in the band. Markus has had fewer credits but has written more frequently in more recent years. (despite having a lesser influence in the bands sound he named every bass player he’s every heard of as an influence… and I noted all of them.)
Recently the band has reunited with early members Kia and Kiski becoming a seven piece band with three guitars and two vocalists.
(Michael refers to Michael Weikath; Michael Kiske will be noted as Kiske)
Phase One
This phase of the band consists of influences of the early members of the band before the departure of Kia.
Elvis is often called the king or rock ‘n’ roll. Kiske named him as the best vocalist to ever live.
James Jamerson was a session player for Mowtown. Markus is a fan of his arrangements.
The Beatles are one of the most influential bands. Michael named them as an influence and says he was really influenced by “While my Guitar Gently Weeps”. Kiske named them as an influence and said he use to sing along to Paul’s parts. He also named John Lennon as an influence. Roland also named them as an influence. Markus named Paul as an influence.
Eric Clapton is one of the most influential guitarist out of the 60’s. He’s played in notable bands such as The Yardbirds and Cream. Michael named him as an influence.
Simon and Garfunkel were a folk rock duo. Kiske named said they were a band he used to sing to.
The Who are an important influential rock band. Markus named them as an influence and John Entwistle as his favorite bassist.
Jimi Hendrix was a revolutionary guitarist. Michael and Roland named Hendrix as an influence.
Cream are an important psychedelic rock band. Markus named Jack Bruce as an influence. Michael named Eric Clapton.
John Farnham
John Farnham is an Australian pop / rock singer. Kiske named him as an influence.
Slade hard rock / glam rock band heavily rooted in rock ‘n’ roll. Kai named them as an early influence on him.
Yes are an influential progressive rock band. Markus named Chris Squire as an influence.
Wishbone Ash are an influential progressive rock band known for their guitar harmonies. Michael named them as an influence.
René Kollo
René Kollo is a German opera tenor. Kiske named him as an influence.
Sweet were a hard glam rock band. Kai named them as one of his early influences. Sweet were the first band Andi got into.
Nektar progressive rock band from Germany. Markus named their album Recycled as an influence.
Lee Sklar
Lee Sklar is a prolific session bassist. Markus named him as an influence.
Mother’s Finest are a funk based band. Markus named Jerry "Wyzard" Seay as an influence.
Queen are a huge and influential rock band. Michael says they are an influence that he forgets to mention. Kai said they are one of his all time favorite bands. Roland named Brian May as an influence. Markus named John Deacon as an influence.
Aerosmith are one of the biggest American hard rock bands. Michael and Kiske named them as an influence.
Judas Priest are one of the most influential bands and were important in shaping heavy metal. Kai said they were an influence and Halford has been a vocal influence for him. Michael also names them as an influence. Kiske named Halford as an influence. Roland named them as an influence. Markus named them and Ian Hill as an influence. Ingo said early on when he started playing he was trying to copy stuff like Judas Priest and named Simon Phillips as an influence. Andi named Halford as an influence and said he sang along to Unleashed in the East hundreds of times.
Kiss are one of the biggest American hard rock bands. Michael named them as an influence and named Paul Stanley is one of the best composers in rock and roll. Markus also named them as an influence. Andi is a huge fan and one of his biggest influences. Uli also named Kiss as an influence.
Rush are an important progressive hard rock band. Markus named Geddy Lee as an influence. Uli named Neil Peart.
Jaco Pastorius is an influential jazz-fusion bassist who played in Weather Report. Markus named him as an influence.
Ted Nugent was one of the big names on guitar in 70’s hard rock. Michael and Markus named him as an influence.
Ramones are fathers of punk rock. Markus named them as an influence.
Sex Pistols are one of the most important early punk bands. Markus named them as an influence.
Def Leppard were an actual metal band before going in a more mainstream direction. Markus named them as an influence.
U2 were a post-punk / alt rock band. Kiske named Bono as an influence.
Marcus Miller
Marcus Miller is a jazz, fusion, funk bassist. Markus named him as an influence.
Billy Sheehan
Billy Sheehan is considered one of the best bass players around and played with a ton of bands. Markus named him as an influence.
Michael Schenker formed MSG after leaving UFO. Schenker is one of Michael’s biggest influences. Roland and Sascha named MSG as an influence; Sascha as a main influence.
Lee Rocker
Lee Rocker is mainly known for his rockabilly band Stray Cats. Markus named him as an influence.
Queensryche are important for the evolution of progressive metal. Kiske named Geoff Tate as an influence. When Helloween decided to get a dedicated front man, Kai said they wanted someone like Geoff. Markus named Operation: Mindcrime as an influential album for him. Uli is also a fan.
The Red Hot Chili Peppers are a funk / alt rock band. Markus named bassist Flea as an influence.
Phase Two
This phase adds new influences for Roland, Andi, and Uli that are not already noted.
Grand Funk Railroad was a big hard rock band. Roland named them as an influence.
Styx were a popular progressive rock based arena rock band. Roland named them as an influence.
Kansas were a popular progressive / arena rock band. Roland named them as an influence.
Alex Conti
Alex Conti is a German rock guitarist that has played in several bands. Roland named him as an influence.
Journey were one of the biggest bands of the arena rock era. Roland said they were a band he was into.
Stevie Ray Vaughan is an influential blues player. Roland named him as an influence.
Foreigner were a popular arena rock band. Roland named them as an influence.
Sting was singer / bassist of The Police and went on to be well known solo. Markus named him as an influence.
Toto are a rock / pop band. Roland and Sascha named them as an influence.
John Sykes
John Sykes has played with several bands. Roland named him as an influence and particularly named his stuff with Whitesnake and Blue Murder.
Deen Castronovo
Deen Castronovo has drummed with a bundh of bands starting with Wild Dogs. Uli named him as an influence.
Faith No More are an influential alternative band. Uli said they were one of his favorite bands from the late 80’s early 90’s.
Phase Three
This section adds the new influence brought to the band by Sascha that are not previously noted.
Genesis was an influential progressive rock band and later went in a more popular new wave style. Sascha is a fan.
Chicago is a pop / rock band. Sascha named them as an influence.
Dokken were on the poppy side of metal. Sascha named them as a main influence.
Peter Gabriel was originally singer and guitarist in Genesis before going solo. Sascha is a fan.
Saga are a progressive rock band and new wave during the early 80’s. Sacha named them as an influence.
Gary Numan
Gary Numan is a new wave musician. Sascha is a fan.
Lisa Dalbello
Lisa Dalbello is a pop / rock singer. Sascha is a fan.
Duran Duran were a synth pop, new wave band. Sascha is a fan.
Depeche Mode were an influential new wave band. Sacha is a fan.
Phil Collins
Phil Collins is known by many as a pop singer but was well known as drummer and singer of Genesis before. Sascha is a fan.
Pretty Maids are a rock and occasional metal band. Sascha named them as an influence.
Bonfire are a keyboard heavy and ballad heavy rock / metal band. Sascha named them as an influence.
Pink Cream 69 was the original band of Andi. Sascha named them as an influence.
Bad English was a band that brought former Journey members back together. Sascha named them s an influence.
Kai started wanting to play drums but after the noise he was making on his makeshift drums set, his parents got him an acoustic guitar. He took six months of classical guitar lessons when he first started playing. He likes all kinds of bands from Bon Jovi to Venom, he didn’t name either as influence specifically. His early band Gentry covered Slade, the Sex Pistols and Uriah Heep.
Michael said in the beginning they wanted to “prove that we are more virtuoso and faster than Rainbow or Accept or Motorhead”.
Michael said that he does not draw influences from Iron Maiden or Metallica even though he thinks they are good bands. He has been asked about this often, but says all his influences are older. His first band he played in was formed in the late 70s before Maiden was known outside of their local area and long before Metallica was a thought. In a 2010 interview when asked what he was listening to he responded “I’m a big fan of Chris Cornell. Nirvana, you know, I hated their music when it first came out, now, it’s good and not so bad. I’m a fan of The Moody Blues and technical stuff from the 1970’s. I’m pretty open, even original Disco” He is also a fan of ELO and Meatloaf.
Kiske named TNT as an influence but there are several bands by that name but I can’t be sure who he was referring to.
Roland named In Flames, Jeff Loomis and Dimebag Darrel as later influences. He also said Joe Satriani and John Petrucci are good.
Sascha early influences come from his love of synth music. His Blackstar amp and Dean guitar profile pages both named Journey as one of his influences but I have not been able to verify that.
Ingo was the original drummer but is not credited with any writing. His playing style, however, has obviously set the standard for many power metal bands. His influences are noted above and all that I found were shared with other members.
Daniel Löble has been the drummer since 2005, he has only a few co-writing credits. I’m unsure of his influences.
Bands influenced by Helloween!
As this project advances, bands will be added here… there are many!
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