Celtic Frost Family Tree

This is a project aimed at making it easy to see who inspired the bands you love or even hate. For this I try not to use any influences that the band don’t claim themselves. There will be a focus on predecessors but successors will be added as they site the band. These trees become more and more interactive as new bands are added, allowing you to click any band that has a tree and jump to it.

We want our lists to be better. If you know something that belongs on this list, let us know. When in doubt we will leave it out, so we need reliable sources.

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Hellhammer was a hugely influential underground extreme metal band who would have an enormous impact on death and black metal as well as other extreme influenced metal genres. I am unsure on how writing was done with the early members of the band. Apocalyptic Raids is the only release that names writing credits are noted as Tom G. Warrior and Tom / Martin Eric Ain.

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Celtic Frost was formed out of the remnants of the underground Hellhammer with founder guitarist/vocalst Thomas Gabriel Fischer (Tom G. Warrior) along with bassist Martin Eric Ain. Celtic Frost and Hellhammer have had a huge impact on extreme metal genres. Tom G. Warrior has been the main music writer within the band and Martin has also had a big hand in the lyrics and occasional the music. The contribution of other members are noted below, but this list focuses on the influences named by Tom G. Warrior.

The Fathers of Metal.  Tom said discovering them was life changing.

The Fathers of Metal. Tom said discovering them was life changing.

UFO was a an influential hard rock band.  Tom named them as an influence.

UFO was a an influential hard rock band. Tom named them as an influence.

Blue Oyster Cult are an American hard rock band.  Along side Black Sabbath, Tom discovered BOC.

Blue Oyster Cult are an American hard rock band. Along side Black Sabbath, Tom discovered BOC.

Goddo were a Canadian Hard Rock band. Tom is a fan.

Motorhead are hard rock / heavy metal legends being one of the most raw sounding bands of their time.  Tom named them as an influence.

Motorhead are hard rock / heavy metal legends being one of the most raw sounding bands of their time. Tom named them as an influence.

Angel Witch were an influential NWOBHM band.  Tom named them as an influence.

Angel Witch were an influential NWOBHM band. Tom named them as an influence.

Discharge were an influential hardcore punk band.  Tom named them as an influence.

Discharge were an influential hardcore punk band. Tom named them as an influence.

Venom are the fathers of extreme metal.  Tom said the first two Venom albums were world changing and they were a huge influence on him.

Venom are the fathers of extreme metal. Tom said the first two Venom albums were world changing and they were a huge influence on him.

Anvil was a Canadian heavy metal band. Tom said he loved their stuff.

Raven are a NWOBHM band.  Tom named them as an influence.

Raven are a NWOBHM band. Tom named them as an influence.

Exciter was a traditional / speed metal band. Tom is big fan and said their first album changed their lives.

The NWOBHM is named as an influence but only the above named bands have been specifically named.

Tom when asked about the style change on Cold Lake, he stated “Nobody feels as much hatred for Cold Lake as I do”

Tom mentions Megadeth’s demo being an eye opener to them about the technicality they were pushing in North America. I’m not sure if that means it was an inspiration in any way. In the same interview he mentions looking up to Canadian bands Goddo, Triumph, Exciter, and Rush. To topic was on comparison of Canada and Switzerland. Out side of what is noted above he doesn’t specifically mention all these bands as influences.

Martin wrote a significant amount lyric wise and to a lesser extent music until Monotheist where he has writing credit on nearly every song. I’m unsure of his musical influences.

Lyrically the band named influences from H.P. Lovecraft, Robert E. Howard, and Alister Crawley.

Film scores from movies like The Omen, and scores for Dario Argento films by the Italian prog rock band Goblin.

In a Rolling Stones article it is asserted that Tom’s influences include Tygers of Pan Tang, GBH, and Anti-Nowhere League. It is likely true, but there isn’t a direct quote given and I have not seen any other interviews that support the assertion.

Oliver Amberg appears on Cold Lake and co-wrote on many tracks. He said when he was a huge Kiss fan and Ace Frehley was a god to him. Later he got into Van Halen.

Curt Victor Bryant was on bass for Cold Lake and guitar/bass (shared bass duties with Martin) for Vanity/Nemesis and co-wrote on both albums. I’m unsure of his influences.

Stephen Priestly played on Morbid Tales but left the band because of musical differences. He said at the time he was more into Rainbow and Whitesnake. He came back and was on Cold Lake and Vanity/Nemesis. He has a few co-writing contributions.

Drummer Reed St. Mark played on several albums but is not giving writing credits except for a few bonus tracks that were later included.

Erol Uenala was on guitars on Monotheist. He co-wrote; I’m unsure of his influences.

Franco Sesa was the drummer and co wrote on Monotheist. I’m unsure of his influences.

Bands influenced by Hellhammer or Celtic Frost!

As this project advances, bands will be added here… there are many!

Recognized by many as the fathers of Death Meta, Check was influenced by Hellhammer and Celtic Frost.

Recognized by many as the fathers of Death Meta, Check was influenced by Hellhammer and Celtic Frost.

Classic Death Metal

Death/Doom and gothic pioneers, named Celtic Frost.

Death/Doom and gothic pioneers, named Celtic Frost.

Black Metallers

Black Metallers

Death/Doom and Symphonic pioneers, They named both Hellhammer and Celtic Frost and are even named after a CF album.

Death/Doom and Symphonic pioneers, They named both Hellhammer and Celtic Frost and are even named after a CF album.

One of the biggest death metal bands

One of the biggest death metal bands

Sludge classic, named Celtic Frost

Sludge classic, named Celtic Frost

Fathers of Groove, Phil is a huge fan of both Hellhammer and Celtic Frost

Fathers of Groove, Phil is a huge fan of both Hellhammer and Celtic Frost

A death metal classic naming both Hellhammer and Celtic Frost

A death metal classic naming both Hellhammer and Celtic Frost

Taking Black metal in a progressive direction, they named Celtic Frost.

Taking Black metal in a progressive direction, they named Celtic Frost.

Pioneers of Melodic Death

Pioneers of Melodic Death

Gothic metal, influenced by Celtic Frost.

Gothic metal, influenced by Celtic Frost.

 

Sources:

https://www.kerrang.com/features/tom-g-warrior-we-played-radical-music-that-pushed-everybody-away-and-we-loved-that-fuck-them-all/#:~:text=Inspired%20by%20the%20energy%20of,have%20become%20cornerstones%20in%20metal.
https://www.loudersound.com/features/my-life-story-tom-g-warrior-of-celtic-frost
https://alarm-magazine.com/2010/qa-tom-warrior-of-celtic-frost-triptykon-and-hellhammer/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORl1y0FmS8Q&t=119s
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/tom-g-warrior-celtic-frost-hellhammer-interview-848041/
https://podtail.com/en/podcast/80-s-glam-metalcast/80-s-glam-metalcast-episode-39-oliver-amberg-ex-ce/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYAevTf9NrM

Venom Family Tree

Metal Family Tree

This is a project aimed at making it easy to see who inspired the bands you love or even hate. For this I try not to use any influences that the band don’t claim themselves. There will be a focus on predecessors but successors will be added as they site the band. These trees become more and more interactive as new bands are added, allowing you to click any band that has a tree and jump to it.

We want our lists to be better. If you know something that belongs on this list, let us know. When in doubt we will leave it out, so we need reliable sources.

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Venom is a legendary band being hugely influential on thrash, death, and black metal. But who influenced them? At the heart of the band in the early years you have Cronos, Mantas, and Abaddom. There has been several line up changes but always with either Cronos or Mantas. For that reason their influences are the most important ones but I’ll touch on some of the other members who have contributed over the years as well.

The Rolling Stones were a important 60’s rock band with a lot of blues in their sound.  Cronos named them as an influence.

The Rolling Stones were a important 60’s rock band with a lot of blues in their sound. Cronos named them as an influence.

One of the earliest rock bands that played a harder rock style, Cronos named The Who as an influence.

One of the earliest rock bands that played a harder rock style, Cronos named The Who as an influence.

Deep Purple has been hugely influential for metal bands. Cronos named them as an influence and Abaddon named them as his favorite band.

Deep Purple has been hugely influential for metal bands. Cronos named them as an influence and Abaddon named them as his favorite band.

The fathers of metal, Black Sabbath. Cronos, Mantas, and Abaddon named Sabbath an influence.

The fathers of metal, Black Sabbath. Cronos, Mantas, and Abaddon named Sabbath an influence.

Kiss is known for their live shows and Venom for sure was influenced by their stage shows. Kiss was a band they have covered over the years. Cronos, Mantas, and Abaddon named them as an influence.  Antton names both Peter Chris and Eric Carr as infl…

Kiss is known for their live shows and Venom for sure was influenced by their stage shows. Kiss was a band they have covered over the years. Cronos, Mantas, and Abaddon named them as an influence. Antton names both Peter Chris and Eric Carr as influences.

Judas Priest, the metal gods influenced tons of metal bands including Venom who adopted their studs and leather look. Cronos, Mantas, and Abaddon named them as an influence. In the early days they covered Priest. Abaddon name the one time drummer fr…

Judas Priest, the metal gods influenced tons of metal bands including Venom who adopted their studs and leather look. Cronos, Mantas, and Abaddon named them as an influence. In the early days they covered Priest. Abaddon name the one time drummer from Sin After Sin, Simon Phillips as his favorite drummer. Antton named Scott Travis as an influences.

The Tubes are considered more of a proto-punk band. They were listed as an influence by Cronos.

The Tubes are considered more of a proto-punk band. They were listed as an influence by Cronos.

Motorhead, the legendary no frills heavy metal band had a big influence on Venom. Mantas stated that Venom’s goal was to combine the stage show of Kiss with the sound of Motorhead.

Motorhead, the legendary no frills heavy metal band had a big influence on Venom. Mantas stated that Venom’s goal was to combine the stage show of Kiss with the sound of Motorhead.

One of the biggest bands in Punk even though short lived, they had a big influence on not just punk but some metal bands such as Venom.  Cronos named them as an influence.

One of the biggest bands in Punk even though short lived, they had a big influence on not just punk but some metal bands such as Venom. Cronos named them as an influence.

AC/DC are the quintessential hard rock band. Demolition Man named them as an influence.

AC/DC are the quintessential hard rock band. Demolition Man named them as an influence.

It’s hard to find guitar players who aren’t inspired by Eddie Van Halen. He’s easily one of the most influential guitar players. Van Halen’s influence can be heard on the album The Calm Before The Storm even if it’s not as obvious on their other alb…

It’s hard to find guitar players who aren’t inspired by Eddie Van Halen. He’s easily one of the most influential guitar players. Van Halen’s influence can be heard on the album The Calm Before The Storm even if it’s not as obvious on their other albums. Cronos named them as an influence. Antton named them as an early influence.

The Dickies were a punk rock band.  Demolition man named them as an influence.

The Dickies were a punk rock band. Demolition man named them as an influence.

Pantera changed the music world when they released Cowbosy From Hell.  Antton named Vinnie Paul as his biggest influence.

Pantera changed the music world when they released Cowbosy From Hell. Antton named Vinnie Paul as his biggest influence.

Cronos named Elvis as an influence because of the controversy around him.

Tony “Demolition Man” Dolan replaced Cronos from 1989-1995 and played on three albums.

Al Barns played guitar on Prime Evil and Temples of Ice, however I am uncertain what his influences are.

Antton played on three albums and co wrote (including riffs) in the 2000’s.

La Rage has been on guitar since 2007. Some of his influences include Slayer, Testament, and Archenemy. I’m uncertain on how much he as contributed to writing.

Mike “Mykvs” Hickney who played on The Calm Before the Storm and co-wrote on Metal Black. He named some of his influences as Jeff Beck, Allan Holdsworth, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix, Ace Frehley, Al Di Meola, Jean-Luc Ponty, Mike Bloomfield, Leslie West, John Sykes, Pantera

James Clare only has two co writing credits on The Calm Before the Storm.

As for newest drummer Dante I’m unsure if he has any writing credits or what his influences are.

Bands influenced by Venom!

As this project advances, bands will be added here… there are many!

The Fathers of Thrash

The Fathers of Thrash

German Thrash and first wave black metal

German Thrash and first wave black metal

Extreme Pioneers

Extreme Pioneers

FUCKIN’ SLAYER!!!!

FUCKIN’ SLAYER!!!!

The Fathers of Death

The Fathers of Death

Extreme Pioneers

Extreme Pioneers

German Speed, Power, and more

German Speed, Power, and more

Thrash Legends!

Thrash Legends!

Classic Death Metal

The Fathers of Sludge

The Fathers of Sludge

Death Metal with a touch of jazz

Death Metal with a touch of jazz

Polish Death Metal Legends

Polish Death Metal Legends

Death/Doom to Symphonic

Death/Doom to Symphonic

Sludge classic

Sludge classic

One of the biggest of Death Metal

One of the biggest of Death Metal

A death metal classic.

A death metal classic.

Fathers of Groove

Fathers of Groove

Moving Black Metal in a progressive direction.

Moving Black Metal in a progressive direction.

Pioneers of Melodic Death

Pioneers of Melodic Death

Gothic / Symphonic

Gothic / Symphonic

Sources:

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/venom-frontman-talks-about-guitarist-change/
https://sabian.com/artist/antton-lant/
http://www.maximum-ink.com/2000/features/venom-12-00/
http://www.maximumink.com/index.php/articles/permalink/mpire_of_evil
https://medium.com/@JakamKourasanis/tony-demolition-man-dolan-venom-inc-interview-c362bdb613c3
https://st-news.com/issues/st-news-volume-10-issue-1/features/interviews/venom/an-interview-with-abaddon/
https://web.archive.org/web/20100110155313/http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/sunra/315/venominterviewrichards.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20100110155313/http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/sunra/315/venominterviewrichards.html
http://bravewords.com/news/venom-drummer-antton-lant-vinnie-paul-is-definitely-one-of-my-biggest-influences