Vicious Rumors Family Tree
Metal Family Tree
This is a project aimed at making it easy to see who inspired the bands you love or even hate. For this I try not to use any influences that the band don’t claim themselves. There will be a focus on predecessors but successors will be added as they site the band. These trees become more and more interactive as new bands are added, allowing you to click any band that has a tree and jump to it.
We want our lists to be better. If you know something that belongs on this list, let us know. When in doubt we will leave it out, so we need reliable sources.
Although the Bay Area is known for it’s thrash metal scene, Vicious Rumors were heavy metal. They are often considered part of The USPM scene. Guitarist Geoff Thorp has been the heart of the band since the beginning and drummer has been on ever album with the exception of one. The classic line up consisted of Mark McGee on guitar, Dave Star on bass, and on vocals Carl Albert. Starting in the mid 90’s the line up would be far less consistent. This family tree at this time will only focus on the classic line up. This is because I am unsure of writing credits after that point. If at a future point I have information on later line ups and respective writing credits I will revisit the VR family tree.
Steve Howe
David Gilmour
Aynsley Dunbar
Bill Bruford
Neal Schon
Steve Hackett
Terry Bozzio
Randy Rhoads
Dimebag Darrel
Geoff talks about seeing The Runaways, Quit Riot (with Randy Roads), and Van Halen all before they became big. He said this really set a fire for him to take music seriously.
Geoff named Judas Priest, Led Zeppelin, and Black Sabbath as the main influences for Vicious Rumors.
Vinnie Moore played on the first album and wrote some on it. His influences include Jeff Beck, Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple), Jimmy Page (Led Zeppilin), and Brian May (Queen). Also Larry Carlton and Al DiMeola and later Joe Pass and Pat Martino. He said he started as a rock guy and got more into classical and jazz. When asked to name three musical hero he named Stevie Ray Vaughan, Jimi Hendrix, and Eddie Van Halen.
Dave Starr was the bassists on the first four VR albums. He started playing guitar before bass but switched when VR had trouble finding bass players. Dave says he’s a better guitar player than bassist. Some of his guitar influences are Glen Tipton, KK Downing, Scott Gorham, John Sykes, Gary Moore, Michael Schenker, Ace Frehley and Paul Stanley. He also names often names Savatage as one of his favorite bands.
Gary St. Pierre sung and wrote on the first album but I am unsure of his influences.
Jim Cassero and Mark Tate, guitars and vocals respectively, have writing credits on the first album but were no longer with the band when it was recorded.
Mark McGee also mentions being into bands like Scorpions, Aerosmith, UFO, Rush, and Kiss when he was younger but didn’t name them directly as influences. He also mentions being influenced by 70’s pop.
Carl Albert sung and wrote with the classic line up doing four albums with VR. He tragically died in a car accident fairly young. I’m unsure of his influences.
Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quqrn-lmq2o
http://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=5767
http://www.metal-temple.com/site/catalogues/entry/musicians/geoff_thorpe_vicious.htm
https://rockoverdose.gr/geoff-thorpe-vicious-rumors-rock-overdose-new-album-concussion-protocol-takes-ride/
https://www.vintageguitar.com/2920/vinnie-moore/
https://www.deanguitars.com/vinnie_moore_alt.php#:~:text=He%20is%20playing%20his%20Signature%20Dean%20guitar%20%26%20pickup.&text=Once%20Vinnie%20Moore%20picked%20up,%2C%20Deep%20Purple%2C%20and%20Queen.
http://wildestarr.com/bio_davestarr.htm
http://www.leviathanrecords.com/chasioads.htm
http://www.guitarsite.com/news/features/interview_with_wildestarrs_dave_starr/
https://musicmonstersandmuscle.wordpress.com/larry-howe-vicious-rumors/
https://www.ballbustermusic.com/2015/11/03/interview-drummer-larry-howe/
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